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How it was for us …<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Updated: 12 March 2022 | Published 29 September 2020<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Warning! <\/strong>
In response to Russia’s special operation aimed at \u2018demilitarising and de-Nazifying Ukraine\u2019, the UK media has embarked upon and is actively pursuing an intensive propaganda programme which is resulting in widespread anti-Russian sentiment and Russophobia. Aimed at cancelling Russian culture and demonising Russian citizens at every level, incidents of verbal abuse and physical aggression towards Russian nationals have been reported in various western countries, including the UK. This comes against the backdrop of reports suggesting that Facebook is greenlighting hate speech against Russians on its social media platform. You are advised to travel to the UK only for essential reasons and whilst there to exercise caution.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Part 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Part 1:<\/strong> A warning to the Curious<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

It is not easy for Russians to emigrate to the UK, although it has been cynically suggested that possession of an extremely large bank account might go some way to oiling the wheels. Failing that, you could always apply the right shade of make-up, throw away identification and thumb a lift on one of those little boats that roll daily into Dover. However, if you are not into making things up and have no desire to be treated as a VIP, you could always try the normal route, which is? At the end of this article, you will find a reference section containing a list of UK Government websites outlining the daunting process which you must undergo should you wish to enter the UK, apply for Leave to Remain and possibly later citizenship.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Not that I am trying to put you off or anything, but the following account is taken from my diary. It is a personal record of what we had to go through, my wife and I, in order for her to live with me in the UK. Admittedly, all this took place a long time ago, back in 2000\/2001, but I have no doubt that the process today is no less turgid, complex and frustrating.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Advice for Russians moving to the UK<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

As outlined in my first post<\/a> I met my wife to be, Olga, when, as an English language teacher, she brought a group of Russian students to London for a month\u2019s cultural visit. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

I visited Olga in Russia, Kaliningrad, during the Christmas holidays and New Year celebrations at the end of 2000, and I returned to Kaliningrad again in 2001, staying twice for a month at a time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Although we had no way of knowing if Olga would be granted a UK visa enabling her to join me in England, we decided to get married, and were married on 31 August 2001, first at the Orthodox Christian church in Svetlogorsk,<\/a> and then, on the same day, at the state registry office in Kaliningrad.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A few days later we separated, and I returned to the UK to prepare for my interview at the British Embassy in Moscow, where I would have to go in order to obtain a British visa for my wife.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For Olga this meant a long train journey from Kaliningrad to Moscow; for me, it meant flying back to Russia about two weeks after returning to England.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Advice for Russians moving to the UK<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

From the time we decided to wed until mid-September 2001, I had spent six months or more compiling a dossier on Olga and myself which I would need to present to the British authorities in Moscow as proof that our relationship was \u2018kosher\u2019, in other words that our marriage was legit and not an arranged immigration scam.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

As well as the official bumph, for help on which I had engaged the services of an immigration solicitor, it was necessary to include documents and evidence of a more personal nature, such as photographs of us together on outings and social occasions with family and friends, as well as copies of our private correspondence. It was a labour-intensive, costly and time-consuming task, and once completed the documents assembled easily filled one of those large Lever Arch files.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On my flight to Moscow, I could not resist comparing my situation with the thousands of so-called asylum seekers that Tony Blair & Co were importing into the UK on an almost daily basis. The irony was inescapable. Here was I, a British citizen, my English lineage stretching back over hundreds of years, having to go cap in hand to the British Embassy in Moscow to beg them to allow my wife to join me in England, whilst immigrants from every corner of the globe were being shipped in wholesale to shore up Tony\u2019s indigenous electoral base, which was destined to collapse once the Socialist faithful tumbled that New Labour was in fact nothing to do with old Labour at all. The irony made me smile. I felt that I had been left on the shelf to make way for Labour\u2019s \u2018Buy into it now and get another thousand free\u2019 policy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Notwithstanding, I made the most of my time in Moscow. I had never been to Russia\u2019s capital city, and I had furnished myself with the luxury of taking a few days off from work to \u2018see the sites\u2019 and recuperate once the ordeal was over.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was an ordeal, make no mistake of that, but, like most things in life, it had its satirical moments.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We arrived at the British Embassy in Moscow at the appointed time. Outside and inside the doorway there was a group of Asian-looking fellows being corralled by three or four military-looking personnel touting automatic weapons. I rather stood out from the crowd as I was wearing a blue suit with a needle-point pinstripe and carrying a black briefcase. One of the soldiers, espying me at the back of the horde, came forward and asked, \u201cCan I help you?\u201d I showed him my British passport and explained that I had an appointment at 4 o\u2019clock. He must have presumed that I was some sort of official diplomat or other, for he and his colleagues suddenly became extremely polite. A route was cleared for us through the crowd and, with a cheery and civil \u201cCome this way, sir\u201d, we were taken past the stairway, shown into a lift and saluted most decorously as we took off.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Well, you know what they say ~ every dog must have its day!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was a different kettle of bureaucratic fish when we arrived in the vast open-plan waiting room upstairs. Once we had \u2018booked in\u2019, we were sat there for one hour before our interview and almost one hour afterwards. As with all bureaucratic institutions, making the public wait seems to be de rigueur. Admittedly, this protraction gave us plenty of time in which to get our story straight. What I mean by that is that we had been alerted to the fact that it was standard practice for the Embassy authorities at some point in the interview to split couples up, and whilst one person went back to the waiting area, the remaining person would be asked various personal questions about the other. Then, the role was reversed: the waiting person would be wheeled in and asked the same questions about himself or herself to see if the answers tallied.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You are no doubt familiar with the axiom that \u2018it is the waiting that is the worst\u2019, and our two hours waiting at the British Embassy proved the rule not the exception.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Down one side of the waiting area there was a series of doors leading to the interview rooms. The appointments worked on a numeric system, in other words you were issued with a ticket with a number on it and when your number was up ~ so to speak ~ as shown on the electronic indicator boards, off you not so merrily went.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

During our wait, we saw several people enter the rooms. I am not sure whether they went in merrily, but what I can say categorically is that most of them came out looking anything but: at least one woman came out in tears and another looking distraught.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It was something akin to being at the dentists, with the patients ahead of you screaming whilst you nervously waited your turn<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And then, suddenly, just when we had begun to suspect that they had forgotten us, it was<\/em> our turn!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The little interrogation, sorry, interview room, could just about hold three people; there were four in ours ~ us and two interviewers ~ a man and woman. It was terribly claustrophobic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Having witnessed the condition of interviewees prior to ourselves we were both ready for the third degree, but it never happened. From the moment we entered the room to the moment we left, the interviewers, contrary to our expectations, were the epitome of good humour, even joining in with and complementing my quips ~ which, I instinctively knew, I should not be indulging. There were formalities, with regard to the visa application and checking of sundry documents, but my Lever Arch file, so painstakingly compiled, hardly received a glance, and I was rather put out that they did not want to scrutinise it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The questions that they asked each of us about each other individually were also taken in good part and raised a few laughs in the process. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

At the end of the interview, we were not exactly told that Olga\u2019s visa would be granted, but we were confident that things had gone well and reassured that we were on the right track from the advice that we were given on what we could expect officially when Olga arrived in the UK.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Whilst our visas application story has a happy ending, contrary to popular belief legal entry into and settlement in the UK is by no means guaranteed, and I cannot emphasise enough the need for assiduous preparation and the importance of taking legal advice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In fairness, the UK is not alone in this: there are very few countries where legal entry with intention to remain is not onerous; it has certainly been no cakewalk for me moving to Kaliningrad, but like everything else in life, you must do your homework first.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In my follow-up article I will try not to deter you even more by outlining how much it costs to live in the UK ~ in London in particular ~ how much you need to earn to live, where your money will go and how fast your money will go.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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UK Immigration References<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Find out if you can apply to settle in the UK
https:\/\/www.gov.uk\/settle-in-the-uk<\/a> [Accessed 29 September 2020]<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Settle in the UK as the partner of a person, or parent of a child, who is in the UK and settled here: form SET(M)
https:\/\/www.gov.uk\/government\/publications\/application-to-settle-in-the-uk-form-setm<\/a> [Accessed 29 September 2020]<\/p>\n\n\n\n

UK visa and immigration application forms
https:\/\/www.gov.uk\/government\/collections\/uk-visa-forms<\/a> [Accessed 29 September 2020]<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Getting a visa for your partner to live in the UK
https:\/\/www.citizensadvice.org.uk\/immigration\/visas-family-and-friends\/getting-a-visa-for-your-partner-to-live-in-the-uk\/<\/a> [Accessed 29 September 2020]<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Copyright \u00a9 2018-2020 Mick Hart. All rights reserved.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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